PETA kills animals
This is a long one... so bare with me. I am going to copy and paste recent emails. Starting with the oldest and ending with the most recent... which seems backwards but if you read from the top... you get the whole picture...
From: Nathan J. Winograd (No Kill Solutions)
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Peta Kills Animals It Promised to Find Homes For
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:38:24 -0700
For years, PeTA has opposed programs to save feral cats and to promote No Kill animal sheltering because of Ingrid Newkirk's background killing animals at the Washington Humane Society. PeTA has a "policy against No Kill shelters" and does "not support right to life for feral cats." The enclosed article was carried by the Associated Press, and indicates PeTA misled shelters and animal hospitals by saying it would find homes for animals, and instead killing them. The story broke when PeTA employees were found dumping bodies in a garbage bin.
Article published Jun 17, 2005
Two PETA employees arrested for animal cruelty
The Associated Press
Two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals have been
charged with animal cruelty after dumping dead dogs and cats in a shopping
center garbage bin, police said Thursday.
Investigators staked out the bin after discovering that dead animals had
been dumped there every Wednesday for the past four weeks, Ahoskie police
said in a prepared statement.
Police found 18 dead animals in the trash bin and 13 more in a van
registered to PETA. The animals were from animal shelters in Northampton
and Bertie counties, police said. The two were picking up animals to be
brought back to PETA headquarters for euthanization, PETA president Ingrid
Newkirk said
Thursday.
Neither police nor PETA offered any theory on why the animals might have
been dumped.
Local officials and veterinarians said they were told that PETA would find
homes for the animals, not euthanize them. PETA has scheduled a news
conference for Friday afternoon in Norfolk, Va., where the group is based,
to discuss the charges.
Police charged Andrew Benjamin Cook, 24, of Virginia Beach, Va., and Adria
Joy Hinkle, 27, of Norfolk, Va., each with 31 felony counts of animal
cruelty and eight misdemeanor counts of illegal disposal of dead animals.
They were released on bond and an initial court date was set for Friday in
Winton.
Hinkle has been suspended, but Cook continues to work PETA, Newkirk said.
Hinkle has worked for more than two years as one of its community animal
project employees in North Carolina, PETA spokeswoman Colleen O'Brien said.
Cook, who joined a couple of months ago, was being trained.
Newkirk said she doubted Hinkle had ever been cruel to an animal and said
if the animals were placed in the bin, "We will be appalled."
PETA euthanizes animals by lethal injection, which it considers more humane
than gassing groups of animals, as poor counties are forced to do, O'Brien
said.
"PETA has provided euthanasia services to various counties in (North
Carolina) to prevent animals from being shot behind a shed or gassed in
windowless metal boxes, both practices that were carried out until PETA
volunteered to provide a painless death, free of charge," Newkirk said.
But veterinarian Patrick Proctor said that authorities found a female cat
and her two "very adoptable" kittens among the dead animals. He said they
were taken from Ahoskie Animal Hospital.
"These were just kittens we were trying to find homes for," he said.
"PETA
said they would do that, but these cats never made it out of the county."
PETA had taken 50 animals from Proctor's practice over the past two years,
he said.
PETA also has taken animals from veterinarian James Brown in Northampton
County.
"When they started taking them, they said they would try to find homes for
them," Brown said, adding that no one checked on the animals afterward.
Barry Anderson, Bertie County's animal control officer, identified nearly
all of the dumped dogs as ones that Cook and Hinkle picked up just a few
hours earlier Wednesday, said Detective Sgt. Ed Pittman of the Bertie
County Sheriff's Office.
Anderson also said that the PETA representatives "told him they were
picking up the dogs to take them back to Norfolk where they would find them
good homes," Pittman said.
Nathan J. Winograd
No Kill Solutions
www.nokillsolutions.com
P.O. Box 74926
San Clemente, CA 92673
(949) 276-6942 telephone
(949) 276-6943 fax
Next Came PETA's REPLY:
Pot Kettle Black.
Best Friends, do you take in EVERY animal that is homeless? No. Thereby you allow them to be killed as they would be. What I read from the PETA statement was they were trying to STOP the gassing and tried to use a less painful method. The animal abuse by the two who were arrested seemed like a different matter. Is Utah a No Kill state? How do they euthanize when they have to? Gas or needle?
There is NO SUCH THING as a NO KILL SHELTER. Let me use a line from my film, "FREE to a Good Home" --All the shelter has to do is "refuse to take in the animal and then it goes to a kill shelter." Thereby making ALL shelters kill shelters.
Currently we do NOT have 5 million homes available. Therefore some animals will have to be killed. Unless, you intend to take them all in until suitable homes can be found. Do you encourage homechecks? Do you encourage applications? Adoption fees? Do you feel that no matter the income everyone has a right to have a pet as a companion? Yes, we are working toward a "no kill" future. But even Best Friends does not delare "No Kill" the way to go. I read your brochures on why it is called "No More Homeless Pets" as opposed to "No Kill" because not all animals are placeable at least not now and maybe not ever. And using the word "Pet" you can ease out of those animals who are not "pet-like."
If the problem was solvable right now. You would have certainly solved it. But it is not. And until the problem of unwanted animals and animal overpopulation comes under "control" animals will be euthanized. Who will take these animals? They will have to be euthanized. Why? Because we do not have the room for them. We do not have the housing. And warehousing them is and can be cruel. You are working toward a No More Homeless Pets society. But we are quite a ways off. Euthanasia is right now our only choice. If there is another choice wouldnt you have mentioned it? Give them to the overtaxed animal rescuers?
In a few places in the East they STILL use gassing as a method of killing unwanted animals. What I read was that PETA was using needle injections to cease the cruel practice of gassing. Now if PETA does not do it, what will happen to those animals, gassed again? Or will Best Friends step in and take them all home to Utah? Will Best Friends step in and euthanize them with a needle?
You said we are well on our way to a time when there will be "No More Homeless Pets" and my question is something you did not address in your statement. What happens until that time. Should PETA allow the states to gas animals to continue that practice?
I know Best Friends has made great strides in the lives of companion animals. But before you point fingers, look first at yourself. How are you culpable in this situation? I saw nothing in your statement that reflected that their intentions to stop the hidious gassing of these animals for a more compassionate alternative was at least offering something better. Afterall, we are all in this together. But I did not see that. I saw the opportunity to blame. But the blame lies with ALL OF US. Every person in America is reponsible for this situation. When we drive by a stray we are just too tired to pick up, when we delete the hundreds of emails about saving this animal or that. When we do not go to the shelter and help a rescue group pull an animal who is begging to borrow a rescue card. When we make getting those rescue cards harder than they need to be. When we say, no, we are full. We are all responsible. Maybe if you had taken in all those animals who were to be gassed, this would have never have happened. I am certain if PETA had a place to put those animals, like The Best Friends Sancatuary in Utah they would have most certainly called you. But if that were possible PETA would never have needed to step up and stop the gassing and replace it with needle injections. What? Don't kill them? Okay, then you take them. You can't possibly take them all in, you say? Well then whatever do we do with them? Ship them all to Utah?
From: Nathan J. Winograd (No Kill Solutions)
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: Peta Kills Animals It Promised to Find Homes For
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:38:24 -0700
For years, PeTA has opposed programs to save feral cats and to promote No Kill animal sheltering because of Ingrid Newkirk's background killing animals at the Washington Humane Society. PeTA has a "policy against No Kill shelters" and does "not support right to life for feral cats." The enclosed article was carried by the Associated Press, and indicates PeTA misled shelters and animal hospitals by saying it would find homes for animals, and instead killing them. The story broke when PeTA employees were found dumping bodies in a garbage bin.
Article published Jun 17, 2005
Two PETA employees arrested for animal cruelty
The Associated Press
Two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals have been
charged with animal cruelty after dumping dead dogs and cats in a shopping
center garbage bin, police said Thursday.
Investigators staked out the bin after discovering that dead animals had
been dumped there every Wednesday for the past four weeks, Ahoskie police
said in a prepared statement.
Police found 18 dead animals in the trash bin and 13 more in a van
registered to PETA. The animals were from animal shelters in Northampton
and Bertie counties, police said. The two were picking up animals to be
brought back to PETA headquarters for euthanization, PETA president Ingrid
Newkirk said
Thursday.
Neither police nor PETA offered any theory on why the animals might have
been dumped.
Local officials and veterinarians said they were told that PETA would find
homes for the animals, not euthanize them. PETA has scheduled a news
conference for Friday afternoon in Norfolk, Va., where the group is based,
to discuss the charges.
Police charged Andrew Benjamin Cook, 24, of Virginia Beach, Va., and Adria
Joy Hinkle, 27, of Norfolk, Va., each with 31 felony counts of animal
cruelty and eight misdemeanor counts of illegal disposal of dead animals.
They were released on bond and an initial court date was set for Friday in
Winton.
Hinkle has been suspended, but Cook continues to work PETA, Newkirk said.
Hinkle has worked for more than two years as one of its community animal
project employees in North Carolina, PETA spokeswoman Colleen O'Brien said.
Cook, who joined a couple of months ago, was being trained.
Newkirk said she doubted Hinkle had ever been cruel to an animal and said
if the animals were placed in the bin, "We will be appalled."
PETA euthanizes animals by lethal injection, which it considers more humane
than gassing groups of animals, as poor counties are forced to do, O'Brien
said.
"PETA has provided euthanasia services to various counties in (North
Carolina) to prevent animals from being shot behind a shed or gassed in
windowless metal boxes, both practices that were carried out until PETA
volunteered to provide a painless death, free of charge," Newkirk said.
But veterinarian Patrick Proctor said that authorities found a female cat
and her two "very adoptable" kittens among the dead animals. He said they
were taken from Ahoskie Animal Hospital.
"These were just kittens we were trying to find homes for," he said.
"PETA
said they would do that, but these cats never made it out of the county."
PETA had taken 50 animals from Proctor's practice over the past two years,
he said.
PETA also has taken animals from veterinarian James Brown in Northampton
County.
"When they started taking them, they said they would try to find homes for
them," Brown said, adding that no one checked on the animals afterward.
Barry Anderson, Bertie County's animal control officer, identified nearly
all of the dumped dogs as ones that Cook and Hinkle picked up just a few
hours earlier Wednesday, said Detective Sgt. Ed Pittman of the Bertie
County Sheriff's Office.
Anderson also said that the PETA representatives "told him they were
picking up the dogs to take them back to Norfolk where they would find them
good homes," Pittman said.
Nathan J. Winograd
No Kill Solutions
www.nokillsolutions.com
P.O. Box 74926
San Clemente, CA 92673
(949) 276-6942 telephone
(949) 276-6943 fax
Next Came PETA's REPLY:
CROSS POST ** CROSS POSTNow The most recent BEST FRIENDS gets their shot.
From: "Martin Mersereau" <MartinM@peta.org>
Date: 6/21/05 6:49AM
Subject: gals
I've pasted my director's letter re the NC matter below my auto signature. Pass
it around as you see fit. No need to reply.
Martin Mersereau, Casework Division Manager
Domestic Animal and Wildlife Rescue & Information Dept.
757-962-8232 @ 757-628-0796 (fax)
Dear Friends,
Please allow me to begin by thanking you for your support recently. Quite a bit
has been said in the press, much of which is inaccurate, sadly, and although I
know many of you saw our press conference transcript, I would like you to also
please visit http://www.helpinganimals.com/f-nc.asp and see a handful of photos
from our NC photo albums.
LINK
Please know that it was a compassionate police officer who first alerted PETA to
conditions at a North Carolina pound (in Bertie) in 2001. The officer's visits
to the tiny outdoor chain link structure consistently revealed animal suffering:
we were sent photographs of, among other horrors, a large white dog drowning in
a pool of water, lying on her side and too sick and weak to lift her head (she
later died), a starving dog eating a dead kitten, and a dead puppy found in a
gas chamber shed. Our visit confirmed that the County needed help. We found
sick, injured animals in need of veterinary care, a leaky, windowless, rusty gas
box (see photos at above link)in which animals were crammed and killed, and a
facility that had no electricity and no covering for its cages. Every winter,
the water hose froze.
PETA immediately offered aid to Bertie County and to the City of Windsor, which
operates its own facility within the county limits. There, animals were
restrained on a metal pole and shot with a .22. Shortly after this, we found out
that Hertford County's homeless animals were also gassed. We made arrangements
to pay a local veterinarian to euthanize those animals by painless injection.
PETA to this date subsidizes humane euthanasia at the Hertford facility, and has
so far paid nearly $9,000 for this service. In Northampton County, animals were
being killed by injection with a paralytic agent that causes suffocation. All
these practices have stopped since PETA volunteered to provide a peaceful
painless death, euthanasia, free of charge. No secret was made of the fact that
we euthanize animals and that the animals retrieved from the pounds would be
provided with a humane death. In fact, it was I who met and spoke with
officials, and not one of them ever even asked me about adoption. The pounds
don't have an adoption program or an adoption rate, and never have.
The pounds that we have helped are in impoverished counties where animal control
is at the bottom of the list. They are located in remote locations, have no open
hours at all-not even for adoption-and no staff except one animal warden whose
job is to respond to dog bites and stray animal calls. In Bertie County, the
animal warden is also in charge of litter control. We have only improved living
and dying conditions for unwanted animals, whose fate was to die by a bullet, to
fight to claw out of a filthy gas box, or to suffocate to death. We could not
let those things go on, even it meant doing the sad work ourselves. Performing
euthanasia affects our staff deeply. Gallons of tears have been shed for North
Carolina's homeless animals, but we are thankful to have been allowed to spare
them a terrifying, painful end.
PETA doesn't just pick up animals from the pounds. Over the last few years, PETA
has worked with these struggling agencies to clean and build, help personnel
with training and provide supplies and services. We have spent more than
$250,000 on veterinary and other services in one North Carolina county alone.
Each dollar spent means a needy animal helped, cold abated, shade provided,
water, medicine and food given, and suffering relieved. We have also delivered
hundreds of free dog houses and straw to dogs chained to metal barrels or not so
much as a tree, and we have paid to spay and neuter countless animals already in
homes.
PETA submitted several proposals to officials and attended several meetings
where we offered (and begged) to be allowed to implement, among other things, an
on-site adoption program. We have pushed for such a program since 2003.
Officials were not interested in our offer.
Many of you attended the House Interim Committee meetings and saw the video
footage of Yadkin County piling animals one layer atop another in a metal gas
box. This is still going on. If PETA had allowed that to go on in a jurisdiction
that welcomed its help-unlike Yadkin-simply in order to avoid bad press or
having to get dirty or dealing with the grief of feeling the life go out of an
animal you've just fed and loved and whose likely never known kind words
before*well, we would not be doing our job.
A terrible mistake was made with the dead bodies. But the ones who remain at the
facilities are alive, and I am worried. The fact that these shelters may
terminate the relationship we have with them likely means that these facilities
will return to their old ways. Please don't let that happen and encourage
officials to allow us to continue servicing their county. Thank you again for
your support and for all you do for animals.
Regards,
Daphna Nachminovitch
PETA
Date: 6/28/05 1:57PMAnd now for my response.
Subject: Best Friends Statement On PETA Killing Animals
"So we consider it to be extraordinarily irresponsible for a single animal
rights group with a loud voice and a reputation for protecting animals
to grab the headlines and tell the world that the best thing we can do
for homeless pets is kill them."
http://news.bestfriends.org/index.cfm?page=news&mode=entry&entry=B09758A0-BB9-396E-9CEDD01793F3D860
June 24, 2005 : 7:15 PM ET
Many of you have called and e-mailed Best Friends to express your views
and ask our opinion on the recent arrest of two PETA employees on charges
of animal abuse.
Since these two people will be going to trial, it would be
inappropriate for us to comment on their particular situation. However, we can certainly
comment on the policies of PETA and their public remarks and actions.
PETA runs some very effective campaigns and we support much of what
they've done to help bring an end to some of the worst abuses of animals in
laboratories, factory farms, "sporting" events, and fur farms.
But in the area of companion animals, we have some fundamental
disagreements.
At a press conference following the arrest of those two employees,
PETA president Ingrid Newkirk said, "PETA believes euthanasia is the kindest
gift to a dog or cat unwanted and unloved." We simply couldn't disagree
more. The kindest gift to a homeless animal is a good home. The kindest gift to
an unloved dog or cat is a loving, caring place to go.
We know perfectly well that there are still more homeless animals each
year than shelters feel capable of placing in new homes. But the number of
animals being killed in shelters has dropped from about 17 million just
15 years ago to less than 5 million today. And we can now look forward to
a day, quite soon, when there will be No More Homeless Pets in this
country.
This remarkable goal is being accomplished through the work of
increasingly progressive humane groups and shelters, where good people are working
to save lives, not destroy them. Any organization that's aspiring to a
leadership role in relation to companion animals needs to be
encouraging people to save more lives, rather than to go on repeating the failed
policies and practices that helped create the problem in the first
place.
So we consider it to be extraordinarily irresponsible for a single
animal rights group with a loud voice and a reputation for protecting animals
to grab the headlines and tell the world that the best thing we can do
for homeless pets is kill them. While PETA is in the forefront of many
animal-related issues, they are way behind the times when it comes to
companion animals. We would hope that they will continue to lead in
the areas where they do well, and to stay out of areas in which, by their
own words and deeds, they have no positive contribution to make.
******************************************************************************
http://news.bestfriends.org/index.cfm?page=news&mode=entry&entry=B0994D1D-BB9-396E-9BB3367BABD1FE39
Notes on PETA's claims
June 24, 2005 : 7:10 PM ET
Some additional notes on Ingrid Newkirk's explanation of why she and
PETA kill homeless pets
PETA's Options: Death or Death
PETA asserts that the only available options are:
a) the animals die a horrible death through inhumane practices.
b) the animals are warehoused in horrible conditions.
c) the animals are turned loose on the streets to die other horrible deaths.
d) the animals are placed in imperfect homes where they live horrible lives.
PETA can generate more publicity than any other animal welfare organization
in the world. But they never use their pulpit to hold shelters accountable
for doing more to save more animals. Instead, they simply blame the
continued "need" for killing on the community's lack of responsibility.
And they offer, as the primary solution, more "humane" ways to kill
animals. Certainly, reasonable people would look at animals being killed in
decompression chambers and agree that intravenous sodium pentobarbital
injection is preferable. But this is simply arguing one method of
death against another, rather than arguing for life rather than death.
PETA's Statistics
PETA uses wildly exaggerated statistics -- presumably to justify the
need to kill more animals by pretending that the problem is too big to be
fixed without killing the animals. Here's an excerpt from a fact sheet on
PETA's
web site:
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=29
More than 70 percent of people who acquire animals end up giving them away,
abandoning them, or taking them to shelters, which receive about 27
million animals annually. More than half - about 17 million - must be destroyed
for lack of homes. This figure is completely inaccurate. Back in the
1980s, there were, indeed, roughly 17 million dogs and cats being killed in
shelters each year. But that number is now down to somewhere between 4
and 5 million. There are still big challenges to be overcome, but we are now
well on our way toward a time when there will be no more homeless pets
being killed in shelters for lack of an available home.
Pot Kettle Black.
Best Friends, do you take in EVERY animal that is homeless? No. Thereby you allow them to be killed as they would be. What I read from the PETA statement was they were trying to STOP the gassing and tried to use a less painful method. The animal abuse by the two who were arrested seemed like a different matter. Is Utah a No Kill state? How do they euthanize when they have to? Gas or needle?
There is NO SUCH THING as a NO KILL SHELTER. Let me use a line from my film, "FREE to a Good Home" --All the shelter has to do is "refuse to take in the animal and then it goes to a kill shelter." Thereby making ALL shelters kill shelters.
Currently we do NOT have 5 million homes available. Therefore some animals will have to be killed. Unless, you intend to take them all in until suitable homes can be found. Do you encourage homechecks? Do you encourage applications? Adoption fees? Do you feel that no matter the income everyone has a right to have a pet as a companion? Yes, we are working toward a "no kill" future. But even Best Friends does not delare "No Kill" the way to go. I read your brochures on why it is called "No More Homeless Pets" as opposed to "No Kill" because not all animals are placeable at least not now and maybe not ever. And using the word "Pet" you can ease out of those animals who are not "pet-like."
If the problem was solvable right now. You would have certainly solved it. But it is not. And until the problem of unwanted animals and animal overpopulation comes under "control" animals will be euthanized. Who will take these animals? They will have to be euthanized. Why? Because we do not have the room for them. We do not have the housing. And warehousing them is and can be cruel. You are working toward a No More Homeless Pets society. But we are quite a ways off. Euthanasia is right now our only choice. If there is another choice wouldnt you have mentioned it? Give them to the overtaxed animal rescuers?
In a few places in the East they STILL use gassing as a method of killing unwanted animals. What I read was that PETA was using needle injections to cease the cruel practice of gassing. Now if PETA does not do it, what will happen to those animals, gassed again? Or will Best Friends step in and take them all home to Utah? Will Best Friends step in and euthanize them with a needle?
You said we are well on our way to a time when there will be "No More Homeless Pets" and my question is something you did not address in your statement. What happens until that time. Should PETA allow the states to gas animals to continue that practice?
I know Best Friends has made great strides in the lives of companion animals. But before you point fingers, look first at yourself. How are you culpable in this situation? I saw nothing in your statement that reflected that their intentions to stop the hidious gassing of these animals for a more compassionate alternative was at least offering something better. Afterall, we are all in this together. But I did not see that. I saw the opportunity to blame. But the blame lies with ALL OF US. Every person in America is reponsible for this situation. When we drive by a stray we are just too tired to pick up, when we delete the hundreds of emails about saving this animal or that. When we do not go to the shelter and help a rescue group pull an animal who is begging to borrow a rescue card. When we make getting those rescue cards harder than they need to be. When we say, no, we are full. We are all responsible. Maybe if you had taken in all those animals who were to be gassed, this would have never have happened. I am certain if PETA had a place to put those animals, like The Best Friends Sancatuary in Utah they would have most certainly called you. But if that were possible PETA would never have needed to step up and stop the gassing and replace it with needle injections. What? Don't kill them? Okay, then you take them. You can't possibly take them all in, you say? Well then whatever do we do with them? Ship them all to Utah?

4 Comments:
Let me get this straight, you're criticizing an organization that is currently giving multiple three-day seminars on improving shelter programs, the importance of spay/neuter campaigns, and ways to reduce companion animal
overpopulation? Then in the same breath you are defending an organiztion that just had two employees charged with animal cruelty, has been linked with terrorism, and thinks its more important to pay a drag queen to chase Starr Jones around rather than bringing attention to the the Wisconsin DNR vote on hunting feral cats? Which organization do you think is actually doing a service for animals and promoting animal rights? Certainly not a group who thinks euthanasia is the answer to every single obstacle in an animal's life.
Give me a break. It seems to me that you, like all too many animal rights activists today, are fascinated with death. You want to fetishize, obsess, and revel in the horrible things we see everyday in the animal world rather than doing what groups like Best Friends are doing: find ways to preserve LIFE and then find ways to prevent the deaths that are not as inevitable as you and millions of misguided, animal "rights" and animal welfare activists claim.
Don't kid yourself. Euthanasia in this country exists because shelters -especially "back east"- refuse to change the dominant paradigm. Everytime we whine about "nobody wants these animals; shelters have to kill them" we are just as culpable as the person who took the animal to the shelter in the first place.
That's what I said, we are all culpable. Which includes Best Friends . Which organization is going a service for animals? BOTH. I was merely saying that one back stabbing the other doesn't help. And that, I do not see Best Friends stepping up to take in ALL these animals so that they DO NOT have to be killed.
SO while they are "finding ways to preserve LIFE and finding ways to prevent deaths" who takes these animals??? If Best Friends REALLY thinks that we can have a NO KILL society right this very minute, then they should step up and take them ALL. But you do not see them doing that... do you??? Well neither do I. And what PETA did, was to STOP that county from USING a FUCKING 22 to shoot an animal. OR... GAS an animal. Their intention was to help, in a manner of how they could. They KNEW they could not take the thousands of animals in... no one can... not Best Friends, Not PETA, NOT ANYONE... not even you... how many animals do you have??? How many have you rescued this year? in your life???
if you do not march right down to the shelter this minute... you too are culpable.
You must be from Back East...
I am doing something about it... I made a movie... what did you do???
I rescue animals...
I do not normally care for PETA tactics. I think they might be on the fringe... however in this case... they were doing what they could.... Should Best Friends allow what was happening in that county... the shooting with a 22 and the gassing to go on? Will Best Friends and see to it that those animals are at the VERY LEAST euthanized (killed) with the least painless method...??? Will they support that? Will their three day seminar do that? What will it do TODAY for those animals?
What will it do today??
Right now. Right this minute.
PETA promised these counties that they would find homes for the animals,then they euthanized them and dumped them in a Piggly Wiggly dumpster in garbage sacks. Do you not see a problem with the fact that they made an agreement with an economically depressed county shelter and then killed the animals instead? Do you not agree that animal groups need to set themselves apart from such a deceptive group?
Best Friends was not backstabbing. Perhaps you should read the statement again. They were responding to numerous questions and comments from their supporters. If you don't want to hear their comments to their supporters perhaps you shouldn't read them... not subscribe to the listerve???
At no point did Best Friends claim we can be "no kill" although they do not let shelters off the hook for poor intake policies and lack of spay neuter programs. ie: shelters in my area who allow dogs and cats to be adopted without being altered.AND Best Friends was being honest about the kill rate in this country rather than using inflated numbers
that PETA and HSUS use to fundraise to send out more useless mailings to fundraise AD NAUSEUM.
And its always interesting to me when someone says "who takes these animals?" What animals? Animals who are being abused? Animals who are being neglected? Certainly these animals are taken in by most no-kills because that is what is in the majority of their mission statements. So this is a bogus argument. Do you really think shelters should still take cats and dogs who people have decided just aren't convenient to their lives?? Shouldn't the more "humane" thing be to suggest ways for the person to adjust their lifestyles or behavior modification for the animal? No people like PETA and HSUS prefer to concoct this "fate worse than death" scenario rather than try what groups like Best Friends,PAWS, etc have been successful with.
And to answer your question about "where do all of these animals go that Best Friends can't take?" Best Friends typically finds other like-minded orgs who have the space at that time. How do I know this? Because I work with a no-kill group in my area that has received animals that Best Friends couldn't take. I've also been apart of pulling animals from death row at county shelters. I've also seen numerous instances where people have made the necessary adjustments to keep their animal after they weren't able to get a space at a no-kill group.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that because someone doesn't agree with your opinions that they aren't in the same game. Just because I don't shove the word "rescuer" in everybody's face like a saint doesn't mean that I'm not working diligently. I also don't feel the need to enumerate everything I do in the welfare/rights community because its tiresome, frankly. I can think of 10 people immediately in my area who kick my ass in terms of what they're doing. And they can probably name 10 other people that are doing more than them. I am not, however, going to sit back while fellow workers propagate the very policies that have gotten shelters into the mess that they are currently in: "take 'em all in and kill 'em if we don't have space... its the most "humane" thing to do." AND I am certainly not going to sit back and read this drivel about No-kill versus Kill. Listen, the kill shelters just LOVE no-kill groups when they're pulling from their shelter. But when the public says "why isn't our city/county doing what this group is doing", the shelter runs crying about "there aren't enough homes....they'll face a fate worse than death..." Because as Craig Bestrup has pointed out, the most vehement proponents of euthanasia are the people doing the euthanizing.
Yeah, you're right I am from back east which gives me a birds eye view of these types of political in-fighting on a daily basis. I do not have the LUXURY of sitting back and throwing stones at counties who still shoot dogs because that's all they can afford such as our friends in the northeast and west coast. However, we at least have the strength as an animal community to come together and find solutions to this problem rather than relying on the hoodwink tactics of PETA (as was the case in NC) and those that would excuse their abhorent behavior.
I agree that Peta's tactics were definately questionable, especially the fact that they MAY have lied about what they were doing with the animals that they were taking from the shelters.
I also agree that Best Friends were never dishonest. But both groups actions were questionable.
I also find it very interesting when people make the statement of who takes these animals?" What animals? Animals who are being abused? Animals who are being neglected? Certainly these animals are taken in by most no-kills because that is what is in the majority of their mission statements." What? You say yourself that you have helped these non-profits, but how involved are you really? No-kill shelters don't have unlimited space either, as I'm sure you must be well aware.
I'm also sure you realize that people who no longer want an animal usually never should have adopted the animal in the first place. These folks that view animals as "disposible items" have questionable values concerning animals in the first place. Although I'm not against the effort, I have a hard time believing that many of these people would be open to the suggestion of altering their lifestyle. I work at a vet clinic, and I've certainly seen and heard of many questionable, not to mention ignorant practices reguarding companion animal care. I also volunteer at a no-kill animal sanctuary. I'm also involved in this effort, but in my experience, people are not often open to changing their ways, and usually won't even listen to a veterinarian when discussing what's best for animal. Many times people believe that they are the expert! Do I have a better solution? Probably not. I never said I did, although I've always thought people interested in breeding animals should be forced to purchase a expensive "breeders" lisence. To give away or sell an animal, they must have it spayed or neutered first, and if the rules are not adhered to the lisence would be revoked and both parties should be heavily fined. I'm totally dreaming, I know. How long would this take to put into place? Totally forever. Probably the same amount of time Peta will take to turn everyone vegan.
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